Marsh Lake Building Committee
August 9, 2004
Present: Tiffanie Tasane, Michael Frasher, Chris Milner (Parks and Rec), Gordon Sinclair, John ???, Susan Walton, Donna Larsen, Mike Larsen, Lucy Skuba, Ross Dorward, Gord Wood, Leif Flemming, Malcolm Taggart
Introductions
Mike F updated the group on EBA’s site visit and geotech work done to date. Mainly good results.
Brief discussion on site i.e. sunrise and set, view, standing trees etc.
Gordon S spoke on the methodology of the project: initial stage is information gathering, followed by schematic design, review design with group and adjust according to budget.
Committee members roundtable discussion on individual visions. Ideas and items mentioned:
§ Community meeting place
§ Open and inviting
§ Versatile
§ Big room
§ Concession space
§ Washrooms that are accessible from the exterior, possible changerooms that skaters can access without opening the entire building
§ Office space
§ Meeting room (could be rented out)
§ Youth or activity space
§ Daycare room
§ Revenue generator
§ Membership- need to have spaces that a fee could be charged for use
§ Bar
§ Kitchen feeds into a big room
§ Concession could open to outside
§ Group spoke on the definition of community
§ Accessibility
§ Building should tie into exterior uses (rink, trails, playground etc)
§ Spartan
§ Concrete, fireproof, steel roof
§ Wraparound porch that is accessible to outside
§ Accessible for emergency vehicles- entrance/parking lot
§ Zonal heating
§ Use of local timber fuel as chips
§ Maintenance costs a concern
§ Solar panels, wind generator
§ Aesthetic is important
§ Space for community classes where a modest rental fee to cover O&M would be charged
§ Intermediate sized space
§ Small school
§ Involve community in process for sense of ownership
§ Bar on higher level (licences a concern)
§ Spaces that are not isolated by age (bar a concern as it separates youth)
§ Club use of bar/lounge (food, kids, use of facility)
§ Gym, not a hall as the community already has the firehall
§ Gym as a revenue generator, a place to hold tournaments
§ Comfortable and warm
§ Covered decks
§ Outside kitchen/barbeque
§ Squash court
§ Exercise room
§ Playroom
§ Multi-use
§ Covered entry so people can mill around before going inside
§ Arctic entrance
§ Hall with a little stage
§ A space of the size where you can meet everyone’s eyes
§ Kitchen attached to hall with a roll-up window
§ 2 stories to take in light and view
§ environmental/green/alternative energy sources
§ poplar stand needs to stay
§ exercise place
§ one room for kids
§ bar is more of a club (concern with drinking and driving)
§ green house/community garden
§ possible space for nursing station or a place for vets, public health etc to come and do clinics
§ potential playground
§ space for conferences
§ wired for internet
§ tie to ski trails (wax room, ski racks)
§ equipment storage
§ security
§ small gym type of space
§ present group all agreed to a catering vs a commercial kitchen
§ sound system wired in
§ some computers…communications wiring
§ janitor’s room with a drain
§ windows that open with cross-ventilation
Chris Milner discussed the fact that there has been little to no change in rec funding for the past few years so there would be little opportunity for additional funding. O&M is a concern of YTG.
The group agreed that a more modest sized space that is used well is more of the goal that a large space that feels too big and cold and is therefore unused.
Discussion on building access and traffic (interior) flow. Discussed individual users, how access is managed, security, barrier-free areas. If the building is 2 plus stories consideration to be made for a stair climber (wide and slow) or a vertical lift (expensive).
Group was clear that they felt that building should be non-smoking. Mechanical engineer stated this would decrease the cost for duct and ventilation work.
Discussion on how a stage would affect the space. The group agreed that a stage would limit the versatility of the space.
Discussion on water source. Mike F and Gordon S would like information on local wells. Contact for that info is David Albisser at YTG. There are three options for a water source a) well b) haulage c) pipe from existing well.
Question about whether Marsh Lake receives a reduced rate from Yukon Electric. Some discussion. Nobody present aware of a rider for Marsh Lake residents.
Discussion on location of septic field. It would flow where there would be no traffic (vehicle or pedestrian) toward the firehall, slightly uphill from the building. It would be a gravity fed system and not a pump system. Malcolm suggested we consider 2 fields side by side that can be alternated annually to extend the life of the system. John spoke of septic fields in the neighbourhood that had failed.
Discussion on windows and temperature/fresh air control. Lee suggested building in controls that can be kicked up for events with a larger volume of people using the facility. This lead to a conversation on whether we would want windows in the gym. Concerns and topics discussed were heat, light, the view, curtains, AC etc.
The group discussed insurance requested of architect in RFP and how, because this is more than Gordon normally carries, how it would affect the budget. Decision to stick with Gordon’s existing coverage.
The committee asked Gordon if we found more money for the planning or construction stage than what YTG has offered would there be room in the design for additions? Yes.
Chris pointed out that no community operates a rec center on a revenue generating budget. Many get O&M funding from the municipality.
Adjourned 9:55 p.m.